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	<title>Comments on: Drupal.org redesign &#8211; Iteration 7, for your review!</title>
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	<description>pretty design pending</description>
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		<title>By: bob oconnor</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob oconnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I Love this new I-7 version.
Most important to me is SEARCH and the specifics.  Currently I mostly use direct google searches. site:drupal.org whatever...   One major search frustration is post time &quot;DATE&quot;.  Many times when looking for Drupal stuff I really want whats True and New for the past 3 to 6 months.   I don&#039;t need to read 2 year old posts when the problem was addressed more recently.  Even Google&#039;s DATE function gives no option between the past month and past year.   Yes, sometimes this is version related... Like when the heck will Version 6 have the &quot;X&quot; feature that Version 5 now has (Module Related).  I agree with others that an EXCELLENT SEARCH is the MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE.  &quot;Gimme what I&#039;m thinking about, PLEASE!&quot; :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I Love this new I-7 version.<br />
Most important to me is SEARCH and the specifics.  Currently I mostly use direct google searches. site:drupal.org whatever&#8230;   One major search frustration is post time &#8220;DATE&#8221;.  Many times when looking for Drupal stuff I really want whats True and New for the past 3 to 6 months.   I don&#8217;t need to read 2 year old posts when the problem was addressed more recently.  Even Google&#8217;s DATE function gives no option between the past month and past year.   Yes, sometimes this is version related&#8230; Like when the heck will Version 6 have the &#8220;X&#8221; feature that Version 5 now has (Module Related).  I agree with others that an EXCELLENT SEARCH is the MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE.  &#8220;Gimme what I&#8217;m thinking about, PLEASE!&#8221; <img src='http://www.disambiguity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ian Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new site looks very promising; crisp design with al the functionality immediately to hand.

Two comments:

1) The logo.  The use of the star in the logo is very reminiscent of the Mambo logo.  Is this deliberate?  In another category of software it wouldn&#039;t matter but, as mambo is a leading competitor to Drupal, it could confuse the products.

2) The footer tag line.  The word Drupal is based on &#039;Dorp&#039; not &#039;Drop&#039; and means village.  A minor point but these matter.

Kind regards
Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new site looks very promising; crisp design with al the functionality immediately to hand.</p>
<p>Two comments:</p>
<p>1) The logo.  The use of the star in the logo is very reminiscent of the Mambo logo.  Is this deliberate?  In another category of software it wouldn&#8217;t matter but, as mambo is a leading competitor to Drupal, it could confuse the products.</p>
<p>2) The footer tag line.  The word Drupal is based on &#8216;Dorp&#8217; not &#8216;Drop&#8217; and means village.  A minor point but these matter.</p>
<p>Kind regards<br />
Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way too much going on on all pages. This needs to be simplified dramatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way too much going on on all pages. This needs to be simplified dramatically.</p>
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		<title>By: rport</title>
		<link>http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-redesign-iteration-7-for-your-review/comment-page-1/#comment-167102</link>
		<dc:creator>rport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this looks great, you probably don&#039;t need show a &quot;Your Dashbord&quot; tab on the frontpage if your not logged in... 

On the &quot;Get Started&quot; page, perhaps another couple of options in the &quot;4 Get Support&quot; column would be &#039;Commercial Support&#039; and &#039;Community&#039; (groups.drupal.org) ...

Also change the current &#039;Get Support&#039; to &#039;Community Support&#039;...

How do I find the Drupal forums???? not accessible from the frontpage.. (Compare with Wordpress http://wordpress.org/support/ )

Also the current &quot;Books&quot; pages are at least two links in from the front page...

There is no &quot;Blog&quot; page, this is very common ever on large commercial web sites... I use these pages to find out whats &#039;really&#039; happening when I follow a developer community.. (compare wordpress which has this on the front-page)

Consider eliminating the words &quot;Search Drupal.org&quot; from the front-page the search is obvious due to the large &quot;Search&quot; button to the right, reorder the space around in the banner area to give back some screen real-estate...

Consider adding a button &quot;New to Drupal&quot; which steps a new user through a &quot;Wizard&quot; of how to asses a CMS..

Note: The getting started page assumes that a new person has already made the leap from a newbie who has no idea what Drupal does or what it can do for them.. (WIIFM)

Don&#039;t refer to &quot;Drupal Core&quot; (item 1 in getting started page), simply call it &quot;Drupal&quot; most normal (non-drupal) people would not know what this means...

The list of NO&#039;s
&gt; No RSS icon on the frontpage
&gt; No report a website bug
&gt; No link to the Drupal Newsletters
&gt; No link to security advices
&gt; No links to email subscriptions
&gt; No sitemap (http://ez.no/sitemap)
&gt; No http://m.drupal.org option

What is importance of &quot;310,721 people in 24 countries speaking 14 different languages&quot; does this illustrate anything? What is its relevance to regular users...


If I was Joe Schmo and I visited the proposed Drupal.org site, I would want to know how it was put together... what modules &amp; versions were used, how the front-page was constructed, what Drupal version the site was etc... 

The Donate link is buried 2 links deep, consider a place on the front-page.

Anyway... 1:00am.... I am going to bed... Best of luck..

Russ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this looks great, you probably don&#8217;t need show a &#8220;Your Dashbord&#8221; tab on the frontpage if your not logged in&#8230; </p>
<p>On the &#8220;Get Started&#8221; page, perhaps another couple of options in the &#8220;4 Get Support&#8221; column would be &#8216;Commercial Support&#8217; and &#8216;Community&#8217; (groups.drupal.org) &#8230;</p>
<p>Also change the current &#8216;Get Support&#8217; to &#8216;Community Support&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>How do I find the Drupal forums???? not accessible from the frontpage.. (Compare with Wordpress <a href="http://wordpress.org/support/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/support/</a> )</p>
<p>Also the current &#8220;Books&#8221; pages are at least two links in from the front page&#8230;</p>
<p>There is no &#8220;Blog&#8221; page, this is very common ever on large commercial web sites&#8230; I use these pages to find out whats &#8216;really&#8217; happening when I follow a developer community.. (compare wordpress which has this on the front-page)</p>
<p>Consider eliminating the words &#8220;Search Drupal.org&#8221; from the front-page the search is obvious due to the large &#8220;Search&#8221; button to the right, reorder the space around in the banner area to give back some screen real-estate&#8230;</p>
<p>Consider adding a button &#8220;New to Drupal&#8221; which steps a new user through a &#8220;Wizard&#8221; of how to asses a CMS..</p>
<p>Note: The getting started page assumes that a new person has already made the leap from a newbie who has no idea what Drupal does or what it can do for them.. (WIIFM)</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t refer to &#8220;Drupal Core&#8221; (item 1 in getting started page), simply call it &#8220;Drupal&#8221; most normal (non-drupal) people would not know what this means&#8230;</p>
<p>The list of NO&#8217;s<br />
&gt; No RSS icon on the frontpage<br />
&gt; No report a website bug<br />
&gt; No link to the Drupal Newsletters<br />
&gt; No link to security advices<br />
&gt; No links to email subscriptions<br />
&gt; No sitemap (<a href="http://ez.no/sitemap" rel="nofollow">http://ez.no/sitemap</a>)<br />
&gt; No <a href="http://m.drupal.org" rel="nofollow">http://m.drupal.org</a> option</p>
<p>What is importance of &#8220;310,721 people in 24 countries speaking 14 different languages&#8221; does this illustrate anything? What is its relevance to regular users&#8230;</p>
<p>If I was Joe Schmo and I visited the proposed Drupal.org site, I would want to know how it was put together&#8230; what modules &amp; versions were used, how the front-page was constructed, what Drupal version the site was etc&#8230; </p>
<p>The Donate link is buried 2 links deep, consider a place on the front-page.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230; 1:00am&#8230;. I am going to bed&#8230; Best of luck..</p>
<p>Russ</p>
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		<title>By: damian calderon</title>
		<link>http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-redesign-iteration-7-for-your-review/comment-page-1/#comment-166768</link>
		<dc:creator>damian calderon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! i&#039;ve added some comments and notes here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bertboerland/3018949626/in/photostream/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! i&#8217;ve added some comments and notes here: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bertboerland/3018949626/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/bertboerland/3018949626/in/photostream/</a></p>
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		<title>By: eigentor</title>
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		<dc:creator>eigentor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Progress! I have to join everybody for praisint the &quot;get started&quot; page: this is really, really great, encouraging and directing the user very well. 

Also a nice CI-like look is evolving - the pages are growing together and a beatiful pattern of coherence is starting to shine through. The balance of blue, green and the khaki tone gets ever better.

Though: The starting page has even become worse concerning the task to not overwhelm the user. Even though I like it being different in design from the rest, it is even more confusing to me than before.

But I gotta say I like the general balance of elements. There is a clear top, middle section and bottom. But too much information and choices. 

Maybe there is a way you could present e.g. the choices below the search box as some kind of drowdown or javascript widget? This would clear up this section.

Have a look at my wild and messy annotated Screenshot here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14250508@N02/3017123564/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Progress! I have to join everybody for praisint the &#8220;get started&#8221; page: this is really, really great, encouraging and directing the user very well. </p>
<p>Also a nice CI-like look is evolving &#8211; the pages are growing together and a beatiful pattern of coherence is starting to shine through. The balance of blue, green and the khaki tone gets ever better.</p>
<p>Though: The starting page has even become worse concerning the task to not overwhelm the user. Even though I like it being different in design from the rest, it is even more confusing to me than before.</p>
<p>But I gotta say I like the general balance of elements. There is a clear top, middle section and bottom. But too much information and choices. </p>
<p>Maybe there is a way you could present e.g. the choices below the search box as some kind of drowdown or javascript widget? This would clear up this section.</p>
<p>Have a look at my wild and messy annotated Screenshot here: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/14250508@N02/3017123564/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/14250508@N02/3017123564/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, let&#039;s use it!</description>
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		<title>By: yched</title>
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		<dc:creator>yched</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Browsing through this : looks GREAT !

- Get started : Love it !
&#039;2 - Extend Drupal&#039; sounds like &#039;contribute&#039; (do some work for the community) rather than &#039;install add-ons&#039; to me.

- About : the tabs (&#039;What is drupal&#039;, &#039;Easy to install&#039;...) are too easily missed IMO
Not clear where the &#039;Features&#039; and &#039;Benefits&#039; would take me.

- &#039;News&#039; : &#039;Filter your search&#039; in right sidebar sounds like &#039;faceted search refinement&#039; to me, which it isn&#039;t, right ?

- &#039;Get involved&#039; / &#039;Community&#039; pages : there seems to be an overlap / duplicated content. Couldn&#039;t that be merged somehow ? Maybe at least a link from &#039;Get involved&#039; to &#039;Community&#039; ?
 
- Downloads (&#039;core&#039;, &#039;modules&#039;, &#039;module example&#039;) : I&#039;m not sure the upper tabs metaphor works here.
2nd level section with highlights, sure, but formatting those like tabs is misleading IMO, because there&#039;s no &#039;1 tab = 1 page match&#039;, as is usually the case in drupal sites.

- &#039;Core&#039; : Tags, Maintainers, Page Views, Downloads, Reported installs - do those really apply here ? Even Screenshots, I&#039;m not sure, for drupal itself there&#039;s a whole site section dedicated to &#039;short presentation&#039;

- &#039;Module examples&#039; : I think the &#039;numbers&#039; (Page Views, Downloads, 
Reported installs) could be given a more visually straightforward  appearance and location. Too much text here.
&#039;Join Group&#039; button is a little prominent; &#039;Join group&#039; and &#039;Recent group posts&#039; sideblocks could probably be merged.
Too much stuff is deported on the sideblock IMO, some of it should reintegrate the main area, for instance as half-width sections under &#039;downloads&#039; (maybe &#039;documentation and &#039;issue queue&#039; ? - &#039;issue queue&#039; is too buried IMO)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Browsing through this : looks GREAT !</p>
<p>- Get started : Love it !<br />
&#8216;2 &#8211; Extend Drupal&#8217; sounds like &#8216;contribute&#8217; (do some work for the community) rather than &#8216;install add-ons&#8217; to me.</p>
<p>- About : the tabs (&#8217;What is drupal&#8217;, &#8216;Easy to install&#8217;&#8230;) are too easily missed IMO<br />
Not clear where the &#8216;Features&#8217; and &#8216;Benefits&#8217; would take me.</p>
<p>- &#8216;News&#8217; : &#8216;Filter your search&#8217; in right sidebar sounds like &#8216;faceted search refinement&#8217; to me, which it isn&#8217;t, right ?</p>
<p>- &#8216;Get involved&#8217; / &#8216;Community&#8217; pages : there seems to be an overlap / duplicated content. Couldn&#8217;t that be merged somehow ? Maybe at least a link from &#8216;Get involved&#8217; to &#8216;Community&#8217; ?</p>
<p>- Downloads (&#8217;core&#8217;, &#8216;modules&#8217;, &#8216;module example&#8217;) : I&#8217;m not sure the upper tabs metaphor works here.<br />
2nd level section with highlights, sure, but formatting those like tabs is misleading IMO, because there&#8217;s no &#8216;1 tab = 1 page match&#8217;, as is usually the case in drupal sites.</p>
<p>- &#8216;Core&#8217; : Tags, Maintainers, Page Views, Downloads, Reported installs &#8211; do those really apply here ? Even Screenshots, I&#8217;m not sure, for drupal itself there&#8217;s a whole site section dedicated to &#8217;short presentation&#8217;</p>
<p>- &#8216;Module examples&#8217; : I think the &#8216;numbers&#8217; (Page Views, Downloads,<br />
Reported installs) could be given a more visually straightforward  appearance and location. Too much text here.<br />
&#8216;Join Group&#8217; button is a little prominent; &#8216;Join group&#8217; and &#8216;Recent group posts&#8217; sideblocks could probably be merged.<br />
Too much stuff is deported on the sideblock IMO, some of it should reintegrate the main area, for instance as half-width sections under &#8216;downloads&#8217; (maybe &#8216;documentation and &#8216;issue queue&#8217; ? &#8211; &#8216;issue queue&#8217; is too buried IMO)</p>
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		<title>By: alex_b</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex_b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15: sorry, *splash</description>
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		<title>By: alex_b</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex_b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Layout looks good. 

The flash still doesn&#039;t fly for me. Looks like something I&#039;d use in my shower.</description>
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<p>The flash still doesn&#8217;t fly for me. Looks like something I&#8217;d use in my shower.</p>
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