Comments on: Drupal.org - come wireframe with me! http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/ pretty design pending Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:52:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Jon Williams http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-169747 Jon Williams Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:24:00 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-169747 I need to use wireframes more often. Cheers. I need to use wireframes more often. Cheers.

]]> By: Jon Williams http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-169746 Jon Williams Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:23:01 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-169746 Nice information. Thank you. Nice information. Thank you.

]]> By: disambiguity - » Drupal.org - What we learned from the Community Wireframing Project http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-154505 disambiguity - » Drupal.org - What we learned from the Community Wireframing Project Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:42:22 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-154505 [...] thought you might be interested to know a little about what we did with all the wireframes people submitted for the Drupal Redesign [...] [...] thought you might be interested to know a little about what we did with all the wireframes people submitted for the Drupal Redesign [...]

]]> By: Claudio Luis Vera http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-151764 Claudio Luis Vera Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:49:43 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-151764 Thanks for having the courage to share your work-in-progress with all of us. Your team is *spot on* with its approach. Our firm has been wrestling with many of your same issues over and over, to the point that some of these patterns are part of the theory we use in designing sites. If not to validate your thinking, here's what we've learned: network/portal header - Great idea! We call it a "universal nav" which we use as a valuable strip of real estate at the top to move you around a large site's different properties. It's also a good location to let a user log in and log out, and you can use color to reflect this state. logged in vs. not logged in: you've got great approach, because these really are different pages for different audiences. One version should tout the benefits of joining and have very general information for those not familiar with Drupal. The logged-in version should have personalized content and be customizable to a power user. home page vs. portal: Different people will want to see different information, and you may even want to have separate pages for drupal.com (what a newbie would try first) and a link-packed portal page for a power user. Simplicity is great for a first-time brand experience, but lists of links are great time-savers once you know your way around. Personally, I'd keep a portal page in the spec that's close in structure to the current d.o home page, and maybe give it the URL of my.drupal.org. Design site on drupal.org? Design and UI are such loaded issues that you should consider having a home for them on the d.o. site -- but also keep a separate site where they can take center stage. "Design" and "usability" can mean _such_ different things to different people, especially when you're trying to mix developers with the tech-shy creatives that Drupal would like to embrace. The creative community has such different values and speaks such a different language that it should have a targeted area separate from the community to court it. On the other hand, there is a huge need for a whole tree of Design and UI forums within drupal.org to address the needs of usability and user experience. That need is far too important to leave to a redesigned thread on g.d.o. Thanks for having the courage to share your work-in-progress with all of us. Your team is *spot on* with its approach. Our firm has been wrestling with many of your same issues over and over, to the point that some of these patterns are part of the theory we use in designing sites. If not to validate your thinking, here’s what we’ve learned:

network/portal header - Great idea! We call it a “universal nav” which we use as a valuable strip of real estate at the top to move you around a large site’s different properties. It’s also a good location to let a user log in and log out, and you can use color to reflect this state.

logged in vs. not logged in: you’ve got great approach, because these really are different pages for different audiences. One version should tout the benefits of joining and have very general information for those not familiar with Drupal. The logged-in version should have personalized content and be customizable to a power user.

home page vs. portal: Different people will want to see different information, and you may even want to have separate pages for drupal.com (what a newbie would try first) and a link-packed portal page for a power user. Simplicity is great for a first-time brand experience, but lists of links are great time-savers once you know your way around. Personally, I’d keep a portal page in the spec that’s close in structure to the current d.o home page, and maybe give it the URL of my.drupal.org.

Design site on drupal.org? Design and UI are such loaded issues that you should consider having a home for them on the d.o. site — but also keep a separate site where they can take center stage. “Design” and “usability” can mean _such_ different things to different people, especially when you’re trying to mix developers with the tech-shy creatives that Drupal would like to embrace.

The creative community has such different values and speaks such a different language that it should have a targeted area separate from the community to court it. On the other hand, there is a huge need for a whole tree of Design and UI forums within drupal.org to address the needs of usability and user experience. That need is far too important to leave to a redesigned thread on g.d.o.

]]> By: Hilde Austlid (zirvap) http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-150247 Hilde Austlid (zirvap) Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:28:33 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-150247 I've posted a wireframe for a handbook page at http://groups.drupal.org/node/14928#comment-50539 I’ve posted a wireframe for a handbook page at http://groups.drupal.org/node/14928#comment-50539

]]> By: Kyle Else http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-150130 Kyle Else Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:02:50 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-150130 Our CDMUG has been using ‘virtual user group space’ at meetups... virtually on IRC /server irc.freenode.net /j #cdmug during sessions... this helps when the weather gets windy and members can't make the CDMUG. Our CDMUG has been using ‘virtual user group space’ at meetups… virtually on IRC /server irc.freenode.net /j #cdmug during sessions… this helps when the weather gets windy and members can’t make the CDMUG.

]]> By: emmajane http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-149981 emmajane Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:22:02 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-149981 I'm a little late to the game, but here we go... http://www.flickr.com/photos/emmajane/tags/wireframinggame/ I’m a little late to the game, but here we go… http://www.flickr.com/photos/emmajane/tags/wireframinggame/

]]> By: roy http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-149609 roy Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:06:17 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-149609 More of a meta-wireframe, showing the kinds of templates we need to unlock our content. http://www.flickr.com/photos/yoroy/2865140008/in/pool-drupalredesign More of a meta-wireframe, showing the kinds of templates we need to unlock our content.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yoroy/2865140008/in/pool-drupalredesign

]]> By: Derek Wright (dww) http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-149320 Derek Wright (dww) Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:47:40 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-149320 There are some interesting mockups of what project pages could look like along with a collection of links to issues regarding the project UI over at http://groups.drupal.org/node/6186. A must-read for the redesigners. ;) There are some interesting mockups of what project pages could look like along with a collection of links to issues regarding the project UI over at http://groups.drupal.org/node/6186. A must-read for the redesigners. ;)

]]> By: Andy Budd http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/#comment-148746 Andy Budd Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:24:55 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/?p=566#comment-148746 @Joshua Porter Brilliant or insane, I can't quite tell which yet :) @Joshua Porter Brilliant or insane, I can’t quite tell which yet :)

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