Comments on: design is a good idea (on ugliness, with some thoughts on the DesignGuys Craiglist ‘realignment’) http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/ pretty design pending Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:54:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: click http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-149031 click Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:03:47 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-149031 Very good webpage you have here and best greetings to all your visitors. Very good webpage you have here and best greetings to all your visitors.

]]> By: Revisiting Ugly Design - Two Views of Anti-Marketing Design http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-73452 Revisiting Ugly Design - Two Views of Anti-Marketing Design Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:35:27 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-73452 [...] A well-written counter blog was done by Leisa Reichelt. She responds back by disseminating the term “design” into two aspects closely following Scoble’s post. The visual design is the part which most people think of when contemplating design. The ‘look and feel’ however, is only half the equation. In her post she defines the aspects of design being part visual-based as well as information/interface-based, a critical difference that many often overlook. Information/interface design is the other part of the puzzle which refers to the ease of use(of the website) and placement of information. Clearly these are important things and deserve to be separated to its own part. [...] [...] A well-written counter blog was done by Leisa Reichelt. She responds back by disseminating the term “design” into two aspects closely following Scoble’s post. The visual design is the part which most people think of when contemplating design. The ‘look and feel’ however, is only half the equation. In her post she defines the aspects of design being part visual-based as well as information/interface-based, a critical difference that many often overlook. Information/interface design is the other part of the puzzle which refers to the ease of use(of the website) and placement of information. Clearly these are important things and deserve to be separated to its own part. [...]

]]> By: Real Estate Web Design http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-3529 Real Estate Web Design Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:00:18 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-3529 <strong>Real Estate Web Design...</strong> Two of the first fully computer-generated short films at Pixar. Piet... Real Estate Web Design…

Two of the first fully computer-generated short films at Pixar. Piet…

]]> By: Daniel FR http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-1394 Daniel FR Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:57:08 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-1394 @Tony Wright: "What is pretty design if it’s not persuasive (or trying to be)?" It's about aesthetics, I presume. Aesthetics is also a moral principle, not just a matter of taste and preference. Cheers, Daniel @Tony Wright:

“What is pretty design if it’s not persuasive (or trying to be)?”

It’s about aesthetics, I presume. Aesthetics is also a moral principle, not just a matter of taste and preference.

Cheers, Daniel

]]> By: my bestblogforward (how blogposts become popular) at disambiguity http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-1048 my bestblogforward (how blogposts become popular) at disambiguity Sun, 28 May 2006 22:09:46 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-1048 [...] Design is a good idea (on ugliness, with some thoughts on the DesignGuys Craigs List realignment) [...] [...] Design is a good idea (on ugliness, with some thoughts on the DesignGuys Craigs List realignment) [...]

]]> By: Global Business Watch - Your Business Information Portal http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-650 Global Business Watch - Your Business Information Portal Fri, 05 May 2006 08:02:34 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-650 [...] Leisa Reichelt’s point: [...] [...] Leisa Reichelt’s point: [...]

]]> By: Andy Howard http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-533 Andy Howard Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:50:03 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-533 [...] Is MySpace so successful because it’s so clumsy and clunky that people trust it? Just like craigslist, if social networking tools aren’t too flashy do consumers trust them more? Maybe. Perhaps the beauty of MySpace is the simplicity, because it certainly isn’t the UI… and I’m thinking MySpace might only be a fad. It’s got a massive customer base but without some innovation MySpace may be surpassed by the competition. [...] [...] Is MySpace so successful because it’s so clumsy and clunky that people trust it? Just like craigslist, if social networking tools aren’t too flashy do consumers trust them more? Maybe. Perhaps the beauty of MySpace is the simplicity, because it certainly isn’t the UI… and I’m thinking MySpace might only be a fad. It’s got a massive customer base but without some innovation MySpace may be surpassed by the competition. [...]

]]> By: Tony Wright http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-529 Tony Wright Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:52:44 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-529 Hrm. I wrote a blog post about this the other day. http://www.blog.gojobby.com/?p=12 Summary of my thoughts... First of all, online space is a different space. It's not unreasonable to think that folks react to "slickness" in a different way than meatspace. For over a decade now, it has been the unattractive sites that have been most rewarding to use... Ebay, Amazon, Yahoo, Google, Craigslist, MySpace, etc... Don't you think that can color people's opinions of ugly versus pretty? Jakob Neilsen did a great study about people's negative response to content that isn't OBJECTIVE. If people on the web small salesmanship/overt persuasion, they lose trust. What is pretty design if it's not persuasive (or trying to be)? Finally, I'd throw out that a lot of stuff that's PRETTY can interfere with information design... the two can co-exist, but they definately butt heads from time to time. Designers are too easily tempted by pretty things and tend to make UI concessions for the sake of being cool/pretty. Hrm. I wrote a blog post about this the other day.

http://www.blog.gojobby.com/?p=12

Summary of my thoughts…

First of all, online space is a different space. It’s not unreasonable to think that folks react to “slickness” in a different way than meatspace. For over a decade now, it has been the unattractive sites that have been most rewarding to use… Ebay, Amazon, Yahoo, Google, Craigslist, MySpace, etc… Don’t you think that can color people’s opinions of ugly versus pretty?

Jakob Neilsen did a great study about people’s negative response to content that isn’t OBJECTIVE. If people on the web small salesmanship/overt persuasion, they lose trust. What is pretty design if it’s not persuasive (or trying to be)?

Finally, I’d throw out that a lot of stuff that’s PRETTY can interfere with information design… the two can co-exist, but they definately butt heads from time to time. Designers are too easily tempted by pretty things and tend to make UI concessions for the sake of being cool/pretty.

]]> By: Designers who Blog: Design, Illustration, Photography, Web, Advertising, Branding … http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-456 Designers who Blog: Design, Illustration, Photography, Web, Advertising, Branding … Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:40:14 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-456 [...] For instance, Josh led me over to a subject I’ve had to stay away from due to a whole lot of snow this month, ‘design is a good idea (on ugliness, with some thoughts on the DesignGuys Craiglist ‘realignment’)’ at www.disambiguity.com. Which led me over to Greg Story for a bit of comic relief to wrap it up. I’m not a fan of ugly, just like I’m not a fan of “a logo only has to be ‘good” enough, so I’m fine with leaving it all behind. [...] [...] For instance, Josh led me over to a subject I’ve had to stay away from due to a whole lot of snow this month, ‘design is a good idea (on ugliness, with some thoughts on the DesignGuys Craiglist ‘realignment’)’ at http://www.disambiguity.com. Which led me over to Greg Story for a bit of comic relief to wrap it up. I’m not a fan of ugly, just like I’m not a fan of “a logo only has to be ‘good” enough, so I’m fine with leaving it all behind. [...]

]]> By: Jon Strande http://www.disambiguity.com/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-202 Jon Strande Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:02:28 +0000 http://www.disambiguity.com/2006/03/design-is-a-good-idea-on-ugliness-with-some-thoughts-on-the-designguys-craiglist-realignment/#comment-202 Leisa, Cool. :-) Thanks! Leisa, Cool. :-) Thanks!

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