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		<title>By: Alex - Microsmeta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex - Microsmeta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milan, Turin, Rome. Italy it is waking up, too. Next barcamp here (Genova) will be held in April. "Force" all your friends to partecipate to this events, we must build a better internet :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milan, Turin, Rome. Italy it is waking up, too. Next barcamp here (Genova) will be held in April. &#8220;Force&#8221; all your friends to partecipate to this events, we must build a better internet <img src='http://www.disambiguity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: leisa.reichelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>leisa.reichelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Gordon. BarCamps are designed to be 'roll your own' so you could always organise one up your way! :)

(I know there is some talk of a BarCamp further up north later in the year... not quite as far north as you I think).

@ Leith: definitely go. Even if it is a little on the geeky side, you'll probably get lots out of it. And it's always good to have lots of clever geek friends!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Gordon. BarCamps are designed to be &#8216;roll your own&#8217; so you could always organise one up your way! <img src='http://www.disambiguity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(I know there is some talk of a BarCamp further up north later in the year&#8230; not quite as far north as you I think).</p>
<p>@ Leith: definitely go. Even if it is a little on the geeky side, you&#8217;ll probably get lots out of it. And it&#8217;s always good to have lots of clever geek friends!</p>
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		<title>By: Leith @ Birth of a Startup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leith @ Birth of a Startup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I was still in London. I lived there for 4 years, and it wasn't til I returned home to Sydney that I began wanting to attend these conferences, and find the best ones are in the northern hemisphere... that being said, there is a BarCamp in Sydney in a week, so maybe I'll attend. I was worried it would be a little to far down the 'geek' end of the spectrum, but perhaps not, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I was still in London. I lived there for 4 years, and it wasn&#8217;t til I returned home to Sydney that I began wanting to attend these conferences, and find the best ones are in the northern hemisphere&#8230; that being said, there is a BarCamp in Sydney in a week, so maybe I&#8217;ll attend. I was worried it would be a little to far down the &#8216;geek&#8217; end of the spectrum, but perhaps not, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to move to London.
Better still, these events need to move north!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to move to London.<br />
Better still, these events need to move north!!</p>
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		<title>By: leisa.reichelt</title>
		<link>http://www.disambiguity.com/barcamplondon2/#comment-10589</link>
		<dc:creator>leisa.reichelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the book recommendation Tom (if only you got reward points at Amazon *sigh*). I look forward to reading that.

I think that what I was thinking when I wrote the point about fun/play is that there does tend to an assumption that work isn't a space where either fun or play should be expected. 

I know that when I've structured 'play' into workshops, for example, I've sometimes had much more success than when I've gone with the strictly dry and professional approach.

I think there are lots of opportunities to take an more playful attitude to our work, and maybe even create the expectation of fun... maybe even on the 'stuffing envelopes' days :)

(Although, as a sidenote, I read an Amazon review of the Pate Kane book where someone said it was fine for those people who have jobs that *are* more fun, and that making nursing or policing more fun could be problematic.... I'm glad I have a job that has much more inbuilt potential for play and fun)

I'll keep an eye out for you at FOWA. I'd be interested to talk about this some more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the book recommendation Tom (if only you got reward points at Amazon *sigh*). I look forward to reading that.</p>
<p>I think that what I was thinking when I wrote the point about fun/play is that there does tend to an assumption that work isn&#8217;t a space where either fun or play should be expected. </p>
<p>I know that when I&#8217;ve structured &#8216;play&#8217; into workshops, for example, I&#8217;ve sometimes had much more success than when I&#8217;ve gone with the strictly dry and professional approach.</p>
<p>I think there are lots of opportunities to take an more playful attitude to our work, and maybe even create the expectation of fun&#8230; maybe even on the &#8217;stuffing envelopes&#8217; days <img src='http://www.disambiguity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(Although, as a sidenote, I read an Amazon review of the Pate Kane book where someone said it was fine for those people who have jobs that *are* more fun, and that making nursing or policing more fun could be problematic&#8230;. I&#8217;m glad I have a job that has much more inbuilt potential for play and fun)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep an eye out for you at FOWA. I&#8217;d be interested to talk about this some more!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, I'm not sure I'd necessarily lump "play" and "fun" together so directly. Obviously, they often go hand in hand, but "fun" is a much more subjective thing and I'm wary of using it in work contexts (particularly because I find things "fun" that other people find "boring"). Similarly: things you enjoy are not always fun. Work should be satisfying, and enjoyable, but sometimes that has to exclude fun - especially on stuffing envelopes days.

Play, though: I can get behind that wholeheartedly. There's an awful lot wrapped up in that word.  I can strongly recommend &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Play-Ethic-Manifesto-Different-Living/dp/0330489305/sr=8-1/qid=1171873694/ref=pd_ka_1/026-8748088-2056437?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books" rel="nofollow"&gt;Pat Kane's &lt;i&gt;The Play Ethic&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which is a very interesting tour of the various ways play can influence society. It's at its most interesting when it veers into the highly hypothetical - the chapter focusing on the "national wage" is fascinating.

Anyhow, I'm sure I can bat more ideas like this around at FOWA - do say hello. I'll sort-of be on my own too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d necessarily lump &#8220;play&#8221; and &#8220;fun&#8221; together so directly. Obviously, they often go hand in hand, but &#8220;fun&#8221; is a much more subjective thing and I&#8217;m wary of using it in work contexts (particularly because I find things &#8220;fun&#8221; that other people find &#8220;boring&#8221;). Similarly: things you enjoy are not always fun. Work should be satisfying, and enjoyable, but sometimes that has to exclude fun - especially on stuffing envelopes days.</p>
<p>Play, though: I can get behind that wholeheartedly. There&#8217;s an awful lot wrapped up in that word.  I can strongly recommend <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Play-Ethic-Manifesto-Different-Living/dp/0330489305/sr=8-1/qid=1171873694/ref=pd_ka_1/026-8748088-2056437?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" rel="nofollow">Pat Kane&#8217;s <i>The Play Ethic</i></a>, which is a very interesting tour of the various ways play can influence society. It&#8217;s at its most interesting when it veers into the highly hypothetical - the chapter focusing on the &#8220;national wage&#8221; is fascinating.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I&#8217;m sure I can bat more ideas like this around at FOWA - do say hello. I&#8217;ll sort-of be on my own too&#8230;</p>
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